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In this edition: Why the GOP race is so light on substance, what New Hampshire polling says about th͏‌  ͏‌  ͏‌  ͏‌  ͏‌  ͏‌ 
 
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January 19, 2024
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Don’t sweat the details: 2024 Republicans keep budget promises vague

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THE SCENE

HOLLIS, N.H. – It was the $1.7 trillion question, from a voter who’d packed into a ski lodge to hear Nikki Haley. How would she balance the federal budget?

“I’m going to do exactly what I did as governor,” Haley promised. As governor, after riding the 2010 Tea Party wave, she’d slashed the state arts fund and vetoed extra money for colleges and museums, trimming a budget that, by law, had to be balanced.

In Hollis, Haley was less specific. She’d “pull down all the old programs, all the reg[ulation]s,” she said. All government spending would go “online for everybody to see,” incentivizing Congress to “move those federal programs down to the state level.” She repeated her pledge to “veto any spending bill that doesn’t take us back to pre-COVID levels,” though what might be cut to do that was unclear.

Just days before the Jan. 23 primary, the big plans of the remaining candidates are unusually light on details. In the four years since New Hampshire’s last contest, debt held by the public has grown from $17.3 trillion to $30 trillion. Both Haley and a fading Ron DeSantis have pilloried Donald Trump for his role in that, attacking the $2.2 trillion CARES Act by name.

But there’s been little demand for specifics about spending or taxes this year. Candidates have obliged the voters, by giving as few specifics as possible.

At his first post-Iowa rally here, Trump said that he’d tackle spending by eliminating “the Green New Scam,” a reference to $400 billion of climate funding in the 2022 Inflation Reduction Act. He talked more about keeping his 2017 tax cuts in place. Haley has promised to claw back unspent COVID relief funds, estimated by the hawkish Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget to be $30 billion; more revenue than that would be lost by eliminating the federal gas tax, which Haley proposed in October and touts daily.

And while she’s taken heat from rivals for proposing an increase in Gen Z’s retirement age for Social Security benefits, it’s not even clear it’s a big saver — it wouldn’t take effect for decades and would entirely bypass the Baby Boomers driving the program’s fiscal gap.

“We’re just seeing less and less detail on fiscal matters from the candidates,” said Robert Bixby, the executive director of the New Hampshire-based Concord Coalition. “They’re mostly trying to avoid addressing the issue — because if you realistically want to address it, you have to talk about a mix of spending cuts and tax increases.”

DAVID AND JOSEPH’S VIEW

Tax increases were never going to be part of a Republican primary debate. Haley, Trump, and DeSantis have fought instead about Social Security, with Trump attacking Haley for wanting to raise the retirement age and Haley pointing out that Trump once favored that.

“Do Americans a service,” Haley told reporters in Hollis after her town hall. “Talk about why he proposed a 25 cent gas tax increase. Talk about why he wanted to raise the retirement age to 70. Talk about how he grew us $8 trillion in debt in just four years. Why aren’t you talking about that?”

Trump paid no penalty for that record in Iowa’s caucuses, and isn’t getting much scrutiny from conservative media. Haley’s other tax ideas have been undefined, like a promise to “open up the middle class” by “simplifying the brackets.” In what turned out to be their final debate, last week, DeSantis endorsed a flat tax that he never detailed during the campaign (Trump and allied groups attacked him for backing related proposals in Congress).

And in Thursday night’s CNN town hall — scheduled after Haley refused to debate anyone but Trump, nixing two planned pre-primary forums — Haley said she was “for child care tax credits for everyone” after moderator Jake Tapper pointed out that her political PAC had opposed them.

Mitt Romney, who won the 2012 New Hampshire primary but lost the presidency, told Semafor that the candidates had learned caution. In that year, with well-funded conservative groups like Americans for Prosperity demanding budget cuts, he and other Republicans rallied behind ambitious budget plans and more specific spending details. Barack Obama rolled them up and turned them into a club.

“Maybe they’re smart enough to not copy what I did,” Romney joked to Semafor. In a separate interview, he told Semafor that “I think it’s hard for President Trump and a lot of other Republicans to sell fiscal austerity when during President Trump’s administration, we had a record amount of debt and massive deficits.”

Erica York, a senior economist at the Tax Foundation, said that the candidates were reflecting “the idea that tax reform has already been done.” Trump lowered taxes in 2017. Biden and other Democrats intended to let them phase out, then collect more revenue; Republicans intended to keep them, running on both low tax rates and TBD spending cuts.

“We’re seeing more along the lines of talking points than a fleshed-out campaign platform,” York told Semafor.

The prime mover in all of this, as usual: Donald Trump. He dramatically increased the GOP’s appeal to white working class voters by abandoning the debt focus; he simply promised to eliminate the debt, then did the opposite, assessing that voters didn’t care so long as the economy was growing.

He also redirected the energy of grassroots conservatives from fiscal panic to stopping illegal immigration, as seen throughout this race. Every candidate made a trip to the U.S.-Mexico border. The debt appeared only as a widget on Kentucky Rep. Tom Massie’s lapel, a prop he could point to while telling DeSantis’s shrinking crowds about how he’d tried to stop CARES from passing in the first place.

THE VIEW FROM VOTERS

The people showing up to hear from candidates weren’t necessarily focused on taxes and spending, though there was plenty of agreement that CARES was a long-run mistake.

“I wish someone would go to every institution that they gave the CARES money to, to see exactly what they spent it on,” said Aileen Sauris, a nurse practitioner who came to see DeSantis speak in Hampton. “We should stop sending money to countries that people are coming to America from illegally unless we see accountability of where and how these funds are being used.”

Asked what might be worth cutting, to reduce overall government spending, the most popular answer was foreign aid, especially to Ukraine, which has gotten $75 billion from the United States since it was invaded by Russia. The second most popular was COVID waste; “nobody wants to work anymore,” explained Ed Topping, who was leaning toward DeSantis, and had left the construction industry before the pandemic after a back injury.

THE VIEW FROM A CONSERVATIVE BUDGET HAWK

Brian Riedl, a budget expert at the right-leaning Manhattan Institute, estimated that GOP lawmakers have shielded 75% of projected future spending from cuts in their current proposals, given the bulk of it stems from Social Security, Medicare, defense programs and veterans’ benefits. He said Haley and DeSantis haven’t put forward specific proposals to shrink the deficit.

“For all their bold promises, not a single one of their deficit reduction plans would actually reduce the deficit,” Riedl wrote in an op-ed for the Dispatch.

NOTABLE

  • In Politico, Lisa Kashinsky and Natalie Allison see a low-energy primary unfolding in New Hampshire.
  • In Semafor, Shelby Talcott cuts through the Trump veepstakes gossip, already underway.

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State of Play

Iowa. The state GOP may change how it reports results from the presidential caucuses, after candidates and activists watched TV networks call the race early Monday evening. “We’re probably either going to insist that there be some kind of unspoken respect for the caucus, or we will have to take a look at when we release results,” party chair Jeff Kaufmann told Cameron Joseph in the Columbia Journalism Review. Gov. Kim Reynolds, whose DeSantis endorsement couldn’t save him from a 30-point loss, is facing a new legislative session with a new set of party critics.

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Polls

As he frequently reminds the press corps, Chris Sununu was right: The GOP race did winnow down ahead of the New Hampshire primary. “[DeSantis] is closer to zero than he is to me,” Nikki Haley told reporters at her Hollis town hall on Thursday. The first polling here since the Iowa caucuses backs up Haley: DeSantis got less than nothing for his win there, and his support has shrunk to a minority of the state’s most conservative voters. But Haley hasn’t caught up to Trump. Registered Republicans overwhelmingly prefer the former president, and 37% of her voters say that they’re only supporting her to oppose Trump.

Chris Christie quit the GOP race last week, and Vivek Ramaswamy quit it before Trump, Haley, and DeSantis got to New Hampshire. Sununu told Semafor that Ramaswamy’s voters wouldn’t matter too much, because he appealed to the “conspiracy party,” and voters won’t take cues from him. This data finds Ramaswamy helping Trump as much as Christie’s exit helped Haley. Christie left the race without making an endorsement, and while bad-mouthing Haley on an open mic (“she’s gonna get smoked”). Ramaswamy endorsed Trump immediately. The result: 27% of voters say they moved to Trump after other candidates quit the race, and 60% say they moved to Haley. He wins registered Republicans by 40 points, and she wins unaffiliated voters by 15.

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On the Trail

Senate. Rep. Matt Rosendale is moving closer to a second U.S. Senate bid, six years after narrowly losing to Sen. Jon Tester. Senate Republicans, whose campaign arm is led by Montana Sen. Steve Daines, have already backed former Navy SEAL Tim Sheehy, who’s been on the air for weeks, but the Washington Examiner’s Reese Gorman reports that Rosendale wants to announce shortly before the filing deadline.

House. Oregon Democrat Jamie McLeod-Skinner is denying accusations that she physically threatened a staffer during her 2022 House race, when she unseated a conservative Democrat but lost his swing seat to a Republican. “To suggest that I would ever physically hit or harm a staffer is absolutely outrageous and categorically false,” she told the Oregonian, nine days after Willamette Week reported the claim.

Some Democrats want McLeod-Skinner to leave the race, including one primary opponent so far and the Save Democracy PAC. “These allegations are very troubling and if true, disqualifying,” said state Sen. Mark Meek, who’s endorsed state Rep. Janelle Bynum for the seat. “This race is too important to have a nominee with this kind of cloud over their campaign. The Republicans won’t think twice about using these allegations against her. I hope she will do what is best for the Democratic party, the people of Oregon, and the district and drop out of this race.”

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Q&A
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HANOVER, N.H. – When we caught up with Dean Phillips on the final Thursday before the New Hampshire primary, he was visiting college towns and rolling out his AI policy (“I want to be the leader of AI”) alongside Andrew Yang. Not everything went perfectly. Critics asked whether the AI plan was a gambit for donations from Silicon Valley, even though Yang and Phillips had been talking about it for weeks. Yang urged Marianne Williamson to leave the race and endorse Phillips, which the candidate didn’t agree with. (“I think the world of her,” he told reporters here.) A musician making a documentary about the election crashed both speeches, with a fistful of dollars to represent the candidate’s “bribes.”

Still: Phillips spoke to large crowds in Manchester and Hanover, and said that the $5 million he’d personally put into the campaign was paying off. This is an edited transcript of our conversation.

Americana: I’ve talked to a lot of unaffiliated voters, across the state, who want to stop Trump and are still deciding on which primary helps them do that. How did the result in Iowa affect what you’re doing — your ability to pull those voters into your primary?

Dean Phillips: Let me start by saying, I do think our country would be better served by a Nikki Haley/Dean Phillips matchup. But, to answer your question directly, I think that, sadly, it demonstrates that Donald Trump has an iron grip on this primary, on his party, and that I don’t see any path for Nikki Haley or Ron DeSantis. It probably will affect the outcome of this race, as people recognize that.

Americana: You did a Space with Elon Musk, Bill Ackman, and Jason Calacanis the other day, and said that maybe a third of your bipartisan cabinet was there. Were you talking about putting any of them in your cabinet?

Dean Phillips: Maybe it’s because I’m normal, and I still have a sense of humor, and I’m not a lifelong politician. That was a joke, and it was just a passing comment. Bill Ackman, Elon Musk — they’re not going to be cabinet members, for God’s sake. I was trying to prove a point, that I want the best and brightest, the most accomplished people who’ve built businesses and come from diverse backgrounds to join the cabinet.

Americana: At this rally, you called Liz Cheney an “American hero” for her actions after Jan. 6. Would she be in the mix for the cabinet?

Dean Phillips: Absolutely, she would be. She’s an honorable, principled person. Our politics don’t necessarily line up, but there’s something so much more important right now. And she and I stay in touch. She’s a woman of integrity and a perfect example of someone who should be considered for any cabinet.

Americana: You’re very clear: You don’t take PAC money and you can’t be influenced by it. But if someone gives $1 million to a super PAC, does that not influence you?

Dean Phillips: I can’t solicit for a super PAC. Rarely do people publish that they made an investment, like he did. That’s the only reason I knew about it. So, there’s no quid pro quo. I can’t coordinate with the PAC and I don’t know what their strategy is. Any insinuation that somehow I’m available for purchase is not just offensive — I can demonstrate through my activities that it’s not true.

Americana: The one suggestion I’ve seen of super PAC influence is that you dropped DEI from your website after Ackman criticized it.

Dean Phillips: I changed it. It now is much more like the language on my congressional website. Mr. Ackman actually just sent me material to read. I’ve heard from hundreds of people probably on the subject, on both sides of this issue. I changed it recognizing that I believe in diversity, period, I believe in equity period, and I believe in inclusion — but I realized that those words together mean a lot of different things to a lot of different people. Frankly, it was detracting from what that section is about, which is restorative justice. So that’s why I changed it.

Americana: So you’re not on board with getting rid of DEI officers, or programs meant to bring more racial diversity to schools?

Dean Phillips: While so many are litigating slogans, I’m really focused on solutions. And I have a lot to learn. I want to get to the roots of why we even need to talk about this, and that’s why my whole economic proposition is to raise the foundation and actually repair those wounds and that injustice.

Americana: There’s a new campaign urging Democrats to write in “ceasefire” instead of a candidate — if you want to send a message, do it on the ballot. What would you say to someone inclined to do that?

Dean Phillips: I’d say: Vote for Dean Phillips, because I’m the one that wants to create a Palestinian state, see a safe and secure Palestinian state recognized, and enact a de facto Marshall Plan to actually create peace and stability in a region that has been so devoid of it for so long. Rather than write that in, how about voting for someone who actually wants to achieve that objective?

Americana: Benjamin Netanyahu is saying — actually said today — that there won’t be a Palestinian state after the war, and Israel will control land from the Jordan River to the sea. How’s that fit in? What was your reaction?

Dean Phillips: I think his statement was appalling. First of all, until Hamas and the Iranian regime and their proxies are eliminated, and until Mahmoud Abbas and Netanyahu, and frankly, Donald Trump are out of the picture, I don’t see prospects for peace. And I think that Netanyahu, sadly, is part of the problem. That’s why I intend to be a president that encourages, promotes, and hopefully signs, documents that finally recognize the state of Palestine. And America should play a role in ensuring that happens.

Americana: Okay — it’s Tuesday night, the votes are in. What share of the vote do you need to be able to say, we shocked the world?

Dean Phillips: If we are in the 20s, I think that would be a remarkable achievement in 10 weeks. A candidate that most of the country still is getting to know, against an incumbent president in a fairly widely covered race? I think I’d be thrilled with that. I think that will establish me as a legitimate candidate. But the bigger story should be, is almost certain to be, that the sitting president of the United States will look awfully weak. Barack Obama got 81% in 2012. Bill Clinton got 84%. I think President Biden will fall way short of that.

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