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A recycling mastermind texts with us about enzymes, AI, and more
Carbios is a French recycling tech company that works with brands like L’Oreal, Pepsi, and Patagonia.
Bradley Saacks said:
B: Hey Emmanuel, thanks for chatting with us! Where are you working from today?
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Emmanuel Ladent said:
E: Hi, from Clermont-Ferrand.
Bradley Saacks said:
B: Beautiful — what’s the view from the office like?
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Emmanuel Ladent said:
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Bradley Saacks said:
B: In layman’s terms, what does Carbios do?
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Emmanuel Ladent said:
E: We recycle plastics and textile with a biological process, based on enzymes.
Bradley Saacks said:
B: For the companies you work with, what are you doing for them and their carbon footprints?
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Emmanuel Ladent said:
E: We have done R&D and a lot of product testing with our partners like L’Oreal, Pepsi, Patagonia and others.
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Emmanuel Ladent said:
E: Our process manages to save at least 50% of carbon emissions compared to virgin plastics.
Bradley Saacks said:
B: Where do these savings come from?
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Emmanuel Ladent said:
E: Our recycling process uses less energy, low temperatures, no solvents. We can recycle many types of waste that are not currently recyclable like food trays and polyester fibers.
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Emmanuel Ladent said:
E: Furthermore, we can recycle many times, much more circular.
Bradley Saacks said:
B: Is there a difference between working with a company based in Europe vs. the U.S. vs. Asia?
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Emmanuel Ladent said:
E: Most global players have taken worldwide commitments on more sustainable packaging. Therefore the approach does not differ much from one continent to another.
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Emmanuel Ladent said:
E: Europe has more stringent regulations but other countries are catching up.
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Emmanuel Ladent said:
E: We have contacts to deploy our technology on a worldwide basis.
Bradley Saacks said:
B: The secret ingredient is enzymes. Is there enough production of them to scale Carbios to where you and your clients want to be?
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Emmanuel Ladent said:
E: Yes, we have teamed up with Novozymes, the largest worldwide enzymes producer to scale up.
Bradley Saacks said:
B: If everything goes according to plan, what does 2030 look like for Carbios?
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Emmanuel Ladent said:
E: We expect to take a significant part of the worldwide recycling market with a presence in most countries. We will expand beyond PET to other polymers, like polyamides and polyolefins.
Bradley Saacks said:
B: Ambitious!
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Bradley Saacks said:
B: I have to ask — what can AI do for you?
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Emmanuel Ladent said:
E: We use AI for enzyme development. This is an accelerator for our R&D.
Bradley Saacks said:
B: How much time does it save for you?
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Emmanuel Ladent said:
E: Today we can process 1 million enzymes per day, about 1000 times more than 5 years ago. Not totally linked to AI, but it does contribute.
Bradley Saacks said:
B: Thanks for chatting!
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